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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure we&#039;ll ever be able to nail down policies regarding fluid phenomena such as social networking, Web 2.0, or electronic communications.  There seem to be as many opinions as there are colors in a rainbow. I teach middle school and haven&#039;t thought much of being electronically visible because I&#039;ve had nothing worth hiding. I have a MySpace alias which I never use.  I have a boring Facebook account that I don&#039;t use much because well, my life is pretty boring to anyone under 40! I have a LinkedIn but I doubt kids would ever bother looking for me there. I don&#039;t think I&#039;d friend any students if they asked me. Perhaps I&#039;d just ignore any messages from them and hope they&#039;d get the hint without being offended.

Although I teach Internet Safety to my students and we discuss social networking, I&#039;m not much interested in those types of networks for some reason. I don&#039;t know why, because I&#039;m blogging, Tweeting, and participating in a pretty wide Professional Learning Network. That in itself makes me feel a little &quot;exposed&quot; but not so much as life details on a MySpace would.  

I was happy last semester that I finally got a parent to respond to me -- via text message -- about her child&#039;s grade, but it surprised me she wouldn&#039;t email. I probably don&#039;t mind being reachable by text to adults. It might be better than a phone call sometimes.  But I much prefer email to either because it gives me time to think about what I&#039;m going to say and attempt to be clear. (Not sure I reach that goal...) Then I have a record of what I said.

All my students have my number, but only one has texted me. She is a deaf student, so talking F2F is difficult without an interpreter.  She&#039;s only 13 and is needing some guidance regarding how late is okay to text, etc. but she&#039;s been very respectful. Sometimes she wants to chat, but I since I require the texts to be school-related or tech problem-solving issues, I just don&#039;t respond.  I&#039;ve been trying to make tech easier and more accessible my since I&#039;m the Computer Teacher at my school. Now I&#039;m re-thinking whether I want to be that available.  

The discussion about blurred lines is very helpful. I&#039;m feeling like I can make better choices by thinking of electronic communications in that way. It&#039;s tempting to get very active online to show the kids that we&#039;re modern, approachable, and cool, but that&#039;s sort of akin to wearing their clothes and speaking in their slang all the time -- both creepy and unprofessional.  Thanks for the post(s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure we&#8217;ll ever be able to nail down policies regarding fluid phenomena such as social networking, Web 2.0, or electronic communications.  There seem to be as many opinions as there are colors in a rainbow. I teach middle school and haven&#8217;t thought much of being electronically visible because I&#8217;ve had nothing worth hiding. I have a MySpace alias which I never use.  I have a boring Facebook account that I don&#8217;t use much because well, my life is pretty boring to anyone under 40! I have a LinkedIn but I doubt kids would ever bother looking for me there. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d friend any students if they asked me. Perhaps I&#8217;d just ignore any messages from them and hope they&#8217;d get the hint without being offended.</p>
<p>Although I teach Internet Safety to my students and we discuss social networking, I&#8217;m not much interested in those types of networks for some reason. I don&#8217;t know why, because I&#8217;m blogging, Tweeting, and participating in a pretty wide Professional Learning Network. That in itself makes me feel a little &#8220;exposed&#8221; but not so much as life details on a MySpace would.  </p>
<p>I was happy last semester that I finally got a parent to respond to me &#8212; via text message &#8212; about her child&#8217;s grade, but it surprised me she wouldn&#8217;t email. I probably don&#8217;t mind being reachable by text to adults. It might be better than a phone call sometimes.  But I much prefer email to either because it gives me time to think about what I&#8217;m going to say and attempt to be clear. (Not sure I reach that goal&#8230;) Then I have a record of what I said.</p>
<p>All my students have my number, but only one has texted me. She is a deaf student, so talking F2F is difficult without an interpreter.  She&#8217;s only 13 and is needing some guidance regarding how late is okay to text, etc. but she&#8217;s been very respectful. Sometimes she wants to chat, but I since I require the texts to be school-related or tech problem-solving issues, I just don&#8217;t respond.  I&#8217;ve been trying to make tech easier and more accessible my since I&#8217;m the Computer Teacher at my school. Now I&#8217;m re-thinking whether I want to be that available.  </p>
<p>The discussion about blurred lines is very helpful. I&#8217;m feeling like I can make better choices by thinking of electronic communications in that way. It&#8217;s tempting to get very active online to show the kids that we&#8217;re modern, approachable, and cool, but that&#8217;s sort of akin to wearing their clothes and speaking in their slang all the time &#8212; both creepy and unprofessional.  Thanks for the post(s).</p>
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		<title>By: plugmein</title>
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		<dc:creator>plugmein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting conversation for sure.  I know that I get involved in digital conversations with my kids all the time---but it&#039;s always on assignments or forums that are created for school and related to my content.  

We have Voicethread presentations and discussion boards that are for our class only.  We have wikis and blogs that we use to post our thoughts and give feedback to one another.  In all of those forums, I&#039;m active----prodding thinking, modeling digital dialogue etc.  

Informally, my students will often email me.  Some even Skype me on occassion....and I definetly reply.  But that&#039;s the extent of it.  

I don&#039;t engage in informal conversations with my kids using social networking sites like Facebook or Myspace.  Not only would my district frown on that, but I&#039;d worry about blurring the lines between &quot;teacher&quot; and &quot;friend.&quot;  

Does that make any sense?  
Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting conversation for sure.  I know that I get involved in digital conversations with my kids all the time&#8212;but it&#8217;s always on assignments or forums that are created for school and related to my content.  </p>
<p>We have Voicethread presentations and discussion boards that are for our class only.  We have wikis and blogs that we use to post our thoughts and give feedback to one another.  In all of those forums, I&#8217;m active&#8212;-prodding thinking, modeling digital dialogue etc.  </p>
<p>Informally, my students will often email me.  Some even Skype me on occassion&#8230;.and I definetly reply.  But that&#8217;s the extent of it.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t engage in informal conversations with my kids using social networking sites like Facebook or Myspace.  Not only would my district frown on that, but I&#8217;d worry about blurring the lines between &#8220;teacher&#8221; and &#8220;friend.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Does that make any sense?<br />
Bill</p>
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		<title>By: jeffreygene</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeffreygene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am online and willing to &quot;friend&quot; any students who ask for it. my boundaries are that i limited profile almost all students that aren&#039;t in uni now, keep them from my photos &amp; wall &amp; as much as possible.

however, i have to remind students that &quot;just because facebook says you&#039;re my friend doesn&#039;t make it true&quot; whenever they try to blur the lines of authority inside the classroom.


wanted to ask, is there a difference between public &amp; private school teachers? if i taught at a public school there&#039;s no way i&#039;d friend any student on facebook. if something happened that could look inappropriate, i trust the admin at my private school to hear me out if anything online seems to look inappropriate. but i wouldn&#039;t trust a bureaucracy to do me right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am online and willing to &#8220;friend&#8221; any students who ask for it. my boundaries are that i limited profile almost all students that aren&#8217;t in uni now, keep them from my photos &amp; wall &amp; as much as possible.</p>
<p>however, i have to remind students that &#8220;just because facebook says you&#8217;re my friend doesn&#8217;t make it true&#8221; whenever they try to blur the lines of authority inside the classroom.</p>
<p>wanted to ask, is there a difference between public &amp; private school teachers? if i taught at a public school there&#8217;s no way i&#8217;d friend any student on facebook. if something happened that could look inappropriate, i trust the admin at my private school to hear me out if anything online seems to look inappropriate. but i wouldn&#8217;t trust a bureaucracy to do me right.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &quot;just me&quot; i mean me as a human, not me as a teacher. It&#039;s really unjustifiable that the two are supposed to be different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8220;just me&#8221; i mean me as a human, not me as a teacher. It&#8217;s really unjustifiable that the two are supposed to be different.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opening and signing in to facebook, wading through Jedi and Zombie invitations, turning down offers for sex, then turning down offers to send the same salacious offer to EVERY ONE of my friends ~or else!~ has me too frustrated to even sign in to facebook. Thanks for posting some comments from the thread on your blog. 

So I&#039;ll respond to the thread here. 

I use facebook to keep in touch with students that have graduated. I don&#039;t approve friend invitations for kids that still go to our school. I&#039;m thinking Jose has the right idea, though about another account for school. I&#039;m not opposed to interacting with kids online, just that my facebook account really was just me.

I will give up my teaching job before I will stop communicating with these awesome young adults. I agree people need to get over themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opening and signing in to facebook, wading through Jedi and Zombie invitations, turning down offers for sex, then turning down offers to send the same salacious offer to EVERY ONE of my friends ~or else!~ has me too frustrated to even sign in to facebook. Thanks for posting some comments from the thread on your blog. </p>
<p>So I&#8217;ll respond to the thread here. </p>
<p>I use facebook to keep in touch with students that have graduated. I don&#8217;t approve friend invitations for kids that still go to our school. I&#8217;m thinking Jose has the right idea, though about another account for school. I&#8217;m not opposed to interacting with kids online, just that my facebook account really was just me.</p>
<p>I will give up my teaching job before I will stop communicating with these awesome young adults. I agree people need to get over themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Olson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The teachers on the Facebook thread sound rather out of my realm, so I&#039;ll just comment here :-) I have a facebook account but would NOT accept friend requests from students. It&#039;s really not an issue that I deal with, though, since my students are so young. Even if I taught older kids, they probably wouldn&#039;t think I&#039;m cool enough to bother looking up! How about you - what did you say in that discussion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The teachers on the Facebook thread sound rather out of my realm, so I&#8217;ll just comment here <img src='http://apaceofchange.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I have a facebook account but would NOT accept friend requests from students. It&#8217;s really not an issue that I deal with, though, since my students are so young. Even if I taught older kids, they probably wouldn&#8217;t think I&#8217;m cool enough to bother looking up! How about you &#8211; what did you say in that discussion?</p>
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		<title>By: jose</title>
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		<dc:creator>jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would, but I don&#039;t feel like being reproached. Unlike too many of the parents and teachers in this conversation, I&#039;ve been doing my own thing. At this stage of the game, anyone can Google or Yahoo me and my website is the first thing that comes up. Needless to say, I guard my first amendment rights with all my soul, or really, I&#039;m just a rebel, yes even a radical. Anyways, because people kept trying to find me on MySpace and Facebook (and in many instances actually succeeding), I decided to make a teacher myspace for myself. I have it set so only the kids can add me, and I have to have seen them previously in the school. It&#039;s still utterly private, and even adults who try and add me won&#039;t get in (i.e. school officials). Before I closed it off, though, I had it reviewed by some outside sources so it&#039;s been approved on all sides. I also have an AIM and a GMail for my kids to contact me. People really need to get over themselves. How are the same people who give up their cell phone number so readily, and even do house visits have no foresight about how the web will eventually work? I&#039;m done posting a blog on your comment box, though. Peace ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would, but I don&#8217;t feel like being reproached. Unlike too many of the parents and teachers in this conversation, I&#8217;ve been doing my own thing. At this stage of the game, anyone can Google or Yahoo me and my website is the first thing that comes up. Needless to say, I guard my first amendment rights with all my soul, or really, I&#8217;m just a rebel, yes even a radical. Anyways, because people kept trying to find me on MySpace and Facebook (and in many instances actually succeeding), I decided to make a teacher myspace for myself. I have it set so only the kids can add me, and I have to have seen them previously in the school. It&#8217;s still utterly private, and even adults who try and add me won&#8217;t get in (i.e. school officials). Before I closed it off, though, I had it reviewed by some outside sources so it&#8217;s been approved on all sides. I also have an AIM and a GMail for my kids to contact me. People really need to get over themselves. How are the same people who give up their cell phone number so readily, and even do house visits have no foresight about how the web will eventually work? I&#8217;m done posting a blog on your comment box, though. Peace &#8230;</p>
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